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5 Signs You’re Becoming a More Libertarian Republican

It’s undeniable that libertarian tendencies are becoming far more mainstream within the Republican Party, but I find it interesting how it’s happening within individuals. I see it in myself (albeit not on everything), and plenty of my political contacts are becoming more libertarian. Here’s how you may know you’re joining that wing of the party.

5. War Isn’t As Good of an Idea Anymore

Back in 2008, you were all with John McCain’s hawkish Iran war chatter:

McCainBomb

But now you don’t want war anywhere, and you’re crying out for Obama to ignore Syria. You still feel like a hippie saying “give peace a chance” though:

PeaceGIF

4. Marriage? Why Are We Even Talking About This?

You used to support traditional marriage and repeat “One Man, One Woman” constantly:

Marriage

But now you don’t even want the government involved in marriage. Every time someone argues in favor of same sex marriage or an amendment defining marriage, you tell them:

GetOut

3. You Aren’t Really Uncomfortable With Drug Legalization Anymore

You used to think that marijuana legalization would ruin the world and destroy society:

DrugsBad

But now you don’t really care, as long as the federal government stops wasting all of your money going after non-violent offenders:

DontCare

2. You Were Always Pro-Gun, But Now You’re Really Pro-Gun

As a conservative, you’ve always supported the 2nd Amendment, but you didn’t give it much thought and just thought guns were really cool:

Gun1

But now you’re starting to realize that guns aren’t just for hunting and self-defense. They’re also a fallback if we end up having to get really ticked off at our government:

CrossGun

1. Your Man Crush Has Changed Dramatically

You’ve long had a man crush on Representative Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, and who can blame you? The man is a budget wonk that does P90X:

RyanGIF

But you’re constantly reminded that Ryan supported the bank bailouts, plus his budget won’t balance for like, 3 decades. Now your crush has shifted to the curly-haired dude in the Senate:

RandPaul

At the end of the day, it’s not like you plan on bolting the Republican Party for some other alternative. You just find yourself considering things a bit differently. That’s alright. It’s happening to a lot of us.

  • http://thebandofpatriots.com Bryan Thomas

    What is this, Buzzfeed? Good points though!

  • Ian Harrison

    Actually, I did bolt the Republican party.

  • I. P. Freely

    Let’s just say I registered Libertarian but I still “caucus” with the Republicans.

    • Mohammed Wasgay

      Huh huh, you said caucus!

  • jotemax

    You’re really a Libertarian when you find the courage to STOP aiding and abetting the GOP, leave and join the revolution in the Libertarian Party. We call it fighting fire with fire!

  • Brandon Magoon

    This is great but ultimately the GOP is doomed. The various factions that make up the party can’t hold together. Ron Paul, Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney can’t be in the same party. And before you let that get you down, the demise of the GOP will quickly be followed by the demise of the Democrats because there is nothing holding them together besides a shared hatred of the GOP. The best thing the libertarian faction can do is fight for fair ballot access and free elections.

    • Jackalope

      Right here might be a good point to remind you that at one time, John F. Kennedy, George Wallace, Lyndon Johnson and Orval Faubus were in the Democratic Party at the same time.

      • James Jones

        Then, they split.

      • Brandon Magoon

        And how long did that last? Besides Kennedy was murdered and Wallace, Johnson and Faubus were all racist. Besides that was then and this is now.

        • Jackalope

          What you just said makes no sense whatsoever. Democrats maintained integrity in spite of wildly divergent views from George Wallace to TED Kennedy. The difference in views within the GOP isn’t even close to that much of a philosophical difference, yet you think they can’t maintain what Democrats already did? That’s just wishful thinking on your part.

          Where else are they going to go? The Democratic Party? The LP with it’s massive 6% of the vote? Be realistic.

          • Brandon Magoon

            Those wildly divergent views weren’t happening at the same time and those people weren’t all from the same part of the country. There is a huge difference between the Neo Con, the So Cons and the Libertarians. And the Libertarian Party only gets 6% of the vote? And that couldn’t possible have anything to do with our ballot access laws and our lack of free elections now could it.?

          • Jeremie Morse

            Yea I just can’t see my self being a republican. Rand Paul is ok. I am not a fan of his social issues. Also He has said some stuff thats sound pretty racist. I realize he is looking at it in a indivualist/federalist lens. But it is real easy for the media to paint him as a racist. I like Gary Johnson but he has no chance of being in the republican part again.

          • Jeremie Morse

            The third parties are intenolly ketp out, Neither side wants thier votes taken away, LP gets 6% but when asked about thier political philosophies. It generally matches closer to the LP party. But they are kept on out the loop. So is green party and other ones.

    • David Monroe

      May I remind you the Democrat party was incredibly fractured towards the end of the Bush era between the hard socialist, the pro-war democrats, the anti-war democrats, the ones that practically wanted the party focused on nothing but abortion and the ones that wanted to address other matters and about a dozen other factions. They’ve seemed to reconcile for the most part. They’re starting to fall apart again, but that’s fine.

      • Brandon Magoon

        You mean in 2008? I don’t recall them being fractured, just the normal give and take. They didn’t have any strong principles, they weren’t trying to purge any element of their party. Those people all got along with each other, they weren’t assaulting each other in the conventions, party security wasn’t mugging opposition delegates, they didn’t sabotage their own primaries and they didn’t fake a vote to prevent a nomination.

        • Jackalope

          Then once again you prove yourself so partisan and biased, you’re unable to look at the facts of the matter.

          • Brandon Magoon

            I’m partisan and biased? I’m unable to look at the facts of the matter? I cited the fact’s. You just choose to ignore them because you don’t want to admit what that could mean for your precious GOP.

        • David Monroe

          They did sabotage their own primaries. Look up the “We Will not Be Silenced” movie, the last half of your statement is completely tossed out, and with that tossed out it invalidates the first half.

          Team Romney 2012 was heavily inspired by the 2008 Obama playbook.

    • Denise Lynn Hemmingway

      Agreed Brandon, in many districts and even States the Libertarians are not found on the ballot. I vote for those Libertarians who actually register as Libertarians in Kansas instead of Republicans. I have not voted for a Republican or a Democrat unless I knew them personally in many years. If I see someone with an abbreviation other than a R or a D after their name on the Ballots I vote for them.

  • http://fiveminutevacations.com/Blog/ Mike

    As a long time republican leaning Independent, I no longer even consider the GOP a party worth considering voting for. I haven’t considered a democrat since Carter, and now Bush, then McCain, then Romney? Sorry, I have as much in common with them as I do the Democrats, which is zero. I’m still Independent, always will be, but I voted almost a straight Libertarian ticket. I’m tired of throwing my vote away on the GOP. Even if Rand Paul took the Republican nomination, I would have to consider what bed of vipers he laid with to get it.

    • flintlock1949

      Sometimes the only way to the goal is through that snake pit; because of his upbringing, I would say Rand stands an excellent chance of making it through unbitten! And it is we voters who created it, and allow that snake pit’s continued existence in the first place!

      • Brandon Magoon

        We voters DIDN’T create it! We don’t have free elections in this country.

        • ww40

          Yes we did create it. Like it or not the voters of this country are responsible. If it is a mess, we did it. I personally feel no blame for the current incompetent in chief, having voted against him and and every other member of his party for years. I feel more like the victim of a carjacking who has been thrown into the trunk and taken along for the ride, whether I like it or not. No I don’t agree with all Republicans all the time. But the enemy is the Democrats people. Never forget that.

          • Michael

            The real enemy is this sense of tribalism that blinds people to the utter corruption in the system as a whole. The Republicans and Democrats both automatically get their candidates on every ballet for every election, but every other party has to waste all of their campaign funds petitioning and suing in 50 different states just to get on the ballet. Who do you suppose is responsible for that: the voters or the politicians?

          • Brandon Magoon

            No we didn’t. We don’t have free elections. How are the voters responsible when the voters don’t have any choices?

          • ww40

            You do have choices, and if you don’t like them, get off your butt and run yourself. Nobody ever promised you choices you would like ok? But you always have the option get in there and do something about it, besides just complain.

          • Brandon Magoon

            You don’t get it. I have run for office, I’ve even won a low level office but the point of elections is for people to get representation in government. Have you ever read your states ballot access laws? Do you realize how hard it is just to get on the ballot? Do you realize that the US has the least representative government in the so called free world? Most people aren’t represented. So where is the choice? http://archive.fairvote.org/media/documents/FairVote_Doug_Amy_Book.pdf

          • Brandon Magoon

            Should Rosa Parks have went to the back of the bus?

    • Eric Lucero

      If Rand Paul got nominated and you didn’t vote for him because of that short sighted, elitist mentality then you’d have to blame yourself as being part of the problem.You only worry about your candidate being “great enough” when you have a line up of great candidates. Right now, we just need to get someone (almost anyone) who’s not an establishment cronie, and Rand Paul would be a HUGE step in that sense. But withholding your support because he doesn’t fit some perfect ideal (that we’ll never see elected anyway) only helps keep Goldman Sachs’ flunkies running our country.

      Keep your Independent mind. Be a free thinker. But register Republican so you can influence the party.

      • http://fiveminutevacations.com/Blog/ Mike

        As much as I like Paul, I would be hard pressed to go Republican again. The results speak for themselves. Sure you can find a Republican that campaigns on smaller government, lower taxes, more liberty. But find me one who actually does it. You have to go back to Coolidge to find a Republican that actually did it. You have to back all the way to Eisenhower to find one who actually acted like they believed in Republican ideals. You tell me who’s wasting a vote. The distrust I have now of the GOP is well earned.

        That said, Paul looks like the best of what they have to offer, but I doubt he’ll get the nomination. There is at least a liberty feeling running through the ‘wacko-bird’ branch of the party, but I’ve heard their false flag campaigns since Nixon. You know what they say; after getting bitten four times now, I hope you can understand my reluctance putting my hand in the elephant cage again.
        Sorry you feel it’s an elitists attitude, but the results speak for themselves. So, I’ll put my time and effort and vote into working for real hope and change, you go right on voting for the same old thing. Maybe this time, you won’t get fooled again. What is it they say about doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting it to be different. But call me names if it makes you feel better.

        • http://www.humboldtlib.blogspot.com/ Fred Mangels

          My guess is Rand Paul and his supporters will be treated the same way Ron Paul was by the Republicans. He won’t come close to winning the nomination.

          • http://fiveminutevacations.com/Blog/ Mike

            Exactly! I can see it now. We know that Hillary is pretty much it for the Democrats. The GOP will try to ‘bring us all into the tent again,’ by stringing us along with Paul, maybe even Cruz. But at the convention, we’ll be told to sit down and shut up and take Christie as the nominee. Then they’ll say we have to vote for Christie or else we’ll help Hillary win. It’s an old worn out song and dance. They’ll call us names, marginalize our opinions. But tell me, who’s throwing a vote away? Those looking and working for real change, or those that fall for the same old lines again and again, and then sit there wondering why nothing changes. Then blame us. The same old crap from the right is starting to smell just as bad as the tired old crap on the left. Spare me.

          • http://fiveminutevacations.com/Blog/ Mike

            I guess for Eric above to think about. Why do you think the Libertarian wing of the GOP is getting so much noise? Because they see the writing on the ballot box, and the defection of people out of the party. They aren’t going to the Democrats. But you go ahead and register Republican, tell them you’re happy with the status quo. As more people go Independent and register Libertarian, the more BOTH parties will move towards the Liberty ideals. That, is how politics work. But call me names if it makes you feel better.

          • Eric Lucero

            I never called you names, and you clearly didn’t understand what I wrote.

            I am not, and have never voted for the status quo. I believe you skipped over the part where I said the most important thing was to vote out the establishment.

            I registered Republican precisely to tell them that I’m unhappy. I registered so I could support Ron Paul in the primary (which is the most important part of the election process), of which I ended up being the delegate of my district. I got to speak with other delegates and influence them past the propaganda of the party line.

            I suggested to you to keep your ideals and free thinking, but only to register Republican so you could influence them. That doesn’t bind who you ultimately vote for. I myself have never voted for a Republican president (though I would have voted for Ron Paul if I could have). I voted for Perot (I), Bob Barr (L) in 2008, and Gary Johnson (L) 2012. But at least I know that I pushed for change and tried to be part of the solution.

          • http://www.humboldtlib.blogspot.com/ Fred Mangels

            The way I see it is you register Libertarian. Then, if the Republicans actually nominated someone that seemed a good vote (rather than just a little better than the Democrat), you can always vote for the Republican. Or whatever other candidate seems the best.

            I can understand registering Republican to vote in the primary, but I figure I’d be so outnumbered I couldn’t make a difference. Heck, even if everyone in the Libertarian Party registered Republican it wouldn’t be enough to overcome the statists within the party.

          • http://fiveminutevacations.com/Blog/ Mike

            I’m debating whether to actually register as a Libertarian, but it is tempting. It’s tough giving up that Independent label. But, if it will open up ballot access and to more candidates running, it might be worth it. In our last election here, congress, state and local, there were Libertarians in 2/3rds of the races. I voted for most of them.

          • http://fiveminutevacations.com/Blog/ Mike

            Excuse me then for misinterpreting the phrase ‘short sighted elitist mentality.’ I think the disconnect here is between what you wrote and what you’re implying above. I don’t know where you’re from, but i Texas I can vote in one of the primaries even as a registered independent. As a registered independent, the GOP itself is chasing my vote an attitude much more that you guys who just want to ‘register a complaint.’ the GOP is moving more towards the Libertarian principles because of the people who are leaving the party, not the ones who stay. You want to make your Good Old GOP more accepting of the ideals of Liberty, then leave the party and tell them why. that’s what I did, that’s how we got Ted Cruz as a senator.
            Look at Obama, he’s dragging the Progressives towards Libertarian ideals now because even he sees where the public mood is shifting.
            Ideally, I’d like to see Paul run as a third party, like we begged his father to do. Maybe Cruz, but he needs to become more than a one-trick pony. I’m busy now trying to find a way to convince Ron Paul to get in the Governor’s race here. I hope he has one more campaign in him.

            You want to change the GOP? register Libertarian. And tell Priebus why you left. I have more political mail, brochures and talking points memos from them, on a National basis because I’m the vote they want. They don’t worry about you, you’re already registered as a vote for them. Complain to them all you want, and then point to me where it made a difference.
            So, if you want to debate about the validity of whether change will come to the GOP from within or without, fine. But if you reread your first post again, I think you can see how I interpreted it as name-calling. It tell mes who comes off with an elitist attitude. If you want to discuss it, fine, but you aren’t making any points with derision.

    • Joseph

      I’d vote for a Paul Ryan or a Ted Cruz or anyone similar. I don’t care what party anymore. I’m ready for the parties to die. I’m voting for individuals.

  • Guest

    But yet the alternative to Rand Paul can’t get over 1% of the vote and his party is of no significance.

    • flintlock1949

      Time will tell! Trying to second guess the vote is a major waste of time – as is believing the polls are any kind of indicator!

    • Brandon Magoon

      The alternative can’t get over 1% because we don’t have free elections.(ballot-access.org) And as for being of no significance, who do you think ran the grass roots end of Ron Paul campaigns?

  • Tim Daniel

    I’m all in for Rand Paul but also a registered Libertarian and loathe the lying, thieving socialist GOP

    • http://www.humboldtlib.blogspot.com/ Fred Mangels

      Ok, but when Rand Paul loses the Republican nomination, keep in mind that Gary Johnson is likely to run again under the Libertarian Party banner.

  • Mary Ellen Lucas

    This is true, I don’t like the rhinos in the GOP, but they WILL get voted out come 2014.

    • Christopher Suiters

      That is all I ever hear. the Rhinos will get voted out in the next election, but it never happens. Stop living in a dream world. and almost all republicans are Rhinos. 40 years ago almost any republican in power today would have been called a democrat.

  • cascronin

    And then there is the other spectrum…??…What do you call a Constitutional Hippie? Survey says a Libertarian.

  • Joseph

    I also told the GOP to fly a kite. I did so the moment I learned that the RNC has already chosen their “acceptable” presidential candidate pool for 2016. They intend either Christie or Jeb. If the base SCREAMS, they will allow a “tea party candidate” who they know will play ball: Rubio or Jindal. No other candidates will be permitted to become serious contenders, and the RNC intends to sew up the nomination by June 2016.

    If there’s a decent candidate in my district up for a primary fight against another pathetic Republicrat, I’ll change my registration to vote for them. Otherwise, the GOP has gotten their last shred of support from me. The party deserves to die like the Whigs before them. And I’m happy to help see that they do.

    The rest? Yeah, I’m generally with you: Government has lost the moral authority to tell ANYONE they can or cannot marry. But gays also have no right to tell ME I have to support their immorality, nor contribute to their behavior, period.

    McCain? I don’t care if he’s recalled, impeached, primaried, or if he croaks—he needs to GO. Iran remains a serious threat, but: Aside from bolstering Al Qaeda, they haven’t done anything to us—and that’s kind of our own damned fault! Additionally, we’re frankly not presently in a position to do anything about them if they did. We’ve much more pressing problems.

    I’m with ya on drugs (again, bigger problems) and Paul Ryan has done a lot more than you list that’s drawn my scorn lately.

    And guns…? There’s still a chance to fix this without bloodshed. It’s slim, and we need to do it NOW. Democrats and Republicans alike are tightening the noose around Lady Liberty’s neck. If we let our last opportunity slip away, I estimate a second civil would kill 40 million people—or more! I doubt America’s got the stomach for that, and I’m certainly not willing to fire the first shot to start that bloodbath.

    Nonetheless, I refuse to die a slave. I will taste freedom with my dying breath if I must.

    • Rook King

      The article doesn’t advocate a revolutionary or civil war under the current circumstances. It just suggests that there might come a time when we have to resort to them. As long as the voting system still works, I am against such a war. As it is, votes are more powerful than weapons. I think most Libertarians see it that way.

      • Joseph

        The article can advocate or not anything it pleases. I’m saying the chance to do anything without guns is rapidly vanishing. For now, the possibility exists.

        I live in a county where the elections are outright (video documented) fraud. Votes mean NOTHING here, and our Soros-SOS-Project corruptocrat won’t lift a finger. If they cannot “enhance” (read: change, again, we’ve got video) enough ballots, they just “find” more again and again until they have enough.

        The fact is that Obama’s created his “civilian army”, finishing the work Bush started, and Republicans have helped. Consistently, church-goers, Constitutionalists, patriots, and tea-partiers are “extremists” or even “terrorists” in the eyes of the government. At some point, they’re going to stop talking and start acting (mass arrests, killing people in earnest, etc…) THEN it’s a shooting war. At that point, as I’ve said numerous times this morning, Republican aristocrats had best not expect a little R after their name to protect them. Because they’re just as guilty—or perhaps more so.

    • Jackalope

      You guys say all that, but when the rubber meets the road, when it’s either vote GOP or see Hillary as our next President, you’ll be banging on the door of the GOP to let you vote for their candidate.

      • Joseph

        No, if the GOP puts forward a Christie or similar, I’m actually voting for Hillary. A quick death is better than a slow, painful one. And if the GOP nominate a Christie or similar loser, death is guaranteed. Let it be quick, then.

        • Jackalope

          Well, I don’t think that’s likely. I was at a Town Hall Meeting a couple of days ago and a number of possible candidates were mentioned. When Christie’s name came out, all I heard was a chorus of boos. But no, a quick death is not preferable. Even the worst GOP candidate will prevent nominations like Sotomayor and Kagan. Many times, it’s not who you DO get in office as much as who you PREVENT being in office.

    • ww40

      SO kindly tell me where do you get your information on who the acceptable candidates are to the RNC. I know two members of it. They have not said anything to me. I am betting it WILL NOT be either Christie or Jeb. I personally hope for Rand Paul, but would be find with Paul Ryan(who I think it will be), or Jindal, who it could be. For VEEP I think Martinez or Nikki Haley.

      • Joseph

        The GOP will allow a Rand Paul on a cold day in Hell.

  • whatsups

    You left out wanting to balance the budget through spending cuts. Get rid of most of DC and all those agencies. Start with the department of education, EPA, department of energy, the bleeping IRS.

  • Janet

    So, it’s the Liberal argument that people didn’t want social security either and Obamacare is a good thing…hm Stupidest argument ever. As is Social Security has ended up successful…NO the government has stolen from SS just like they will from Obamacare, the death panels will be the same as in other Countries with socialized medical. If you don’t believe it just ask someone from the UK if their grandma passed away because they decided to let her die… Can you imagine how much money you would have if SS was deposited into an account for you that only you could draw from. Let me tell you, you’d be filthy rich by now. Healthcare personal accounts is the better solution. Defund Obamacare now before it ends up like SS did…put the money in your account so that you can decide how to spend it. I’m sure you’ll spend it to save your life. Obamacare wont!

    http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/

    Sign this one too: http://act.theteaparty.net/7916/sign-tea-party-petition-to-defund-obamacare-now/?src=widget

  • Obama Zombie Killer

    tru

  • Michael

    I’m still a registered Republican, but I don’t self-identify as Republican anymore. I’m holding on to my party registration because Florida, where I live, is a closed primary state, so if there is ever a Republican candidate that even remotely reflects my strongly Libertarian views, I can try to nominate him or her. Of course, my stupid state can’t even certify it’s vote until after a winner has been declared.

  • Denise Lynn Hemmingway

    I will rejoin the Republican Party when the Theocrats and the other non-Libertarian Republicans leave after being reminded it was once the Republican Party who was the defender of American Liberty and the ideas of the Constitution. Now the leadership either resembles the theocrats of the Middle East or mimics of the Democrats.

    • ww40

      If you don’t like the party leadership, become part of it. Run for a position within the party. DO something, don’t just complain. I have spent 22 of the part 30 years in one capacity or another on the state Executive Committee. It’s not that hard to do. Trust me the powers that be did not want me on it when I first got there, some of them since have liked me. Some have not. And vice versa, that street has gone both ways. But I DO stay active, and I will not waste my time trying to go the third party route. Remember seeing that done years ago with my folks pushing George Wallace(whose hand I once got to shake as kid), but those movements never work in the end. I won’t go that route.

      • Denise Lynn Hemmingway

        I left when the supporters of Pat Robertson took over the Sedgwick County Committee in Sedgwick County Kansas. I have been unaffiliated ever since and believe that all voters should drop their party affiliations and become independents. Before that I was a supporter of Ronald Reagan, G.H.W. Bush, and our own Bob Dole. I believed in the ideas of Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt, not the ideas of the religious bigots who passed themselves off as “Social Conservatives.”

  • StatEco

    Yes

  • Micky Gluck

    Despite the fact that I would prefer a LIBERTARIAN President, my biggest problem is that the main street US citizen HAS NO IDEA what the hell is talking abouT

  • Sean Jefferson

    I find that the chorus of libertarians that constantly bash those who are religious, is just as tiresome as those hyper religious who constantly bash atheists. Stay the flock out of my religious beliefs or lack of them. Why are so many interested in redefining the word marriage? If we are going to redefine words, lets start with the words “taxable income”, and “discretionary spending”, lets redefine “federally mandated”, and if we could, lets eliminate the 14th amendment, it was intended for the children of slaves, not every foreigner who squats out a child on U. S. soil.

  • Denise Lynn Hemmingway

    If you are tired of the seemingly Two Party Rule which is in point of fact thinly disguised one party rule then stop voting for either the Republicans or the Democrats. There are other options and the way to bring about multiparty representation in Congress and the State Legislatures is to stop voting for the main parties. The more we continue to vote for them the more they will feel that they are entitled to their positions. The real revolution begins when we ignore the ads in the various media platforms and use our own minds to affect real change.

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